An Interview With Roe Lennon

What you are about to hear are two random dope souls that connected on the Blue App. Yes, Facebook. That app! Tune in to an exclusive interview with the creator of F🤬ck Yo Podcast (The Podcast), currently streaming on YouTube. In this episode, you are bound to pick up gems that are being dropped non-stop by these two. So sit back, relax, spark one up, and jump down this rabbit hole with yo girl, Momba! 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:24

Hello, kings and queens, it's your girl Mamba, and welcome to Mambaron and Filters. Tonight I have my very first interview with a dope soul, Ro Lennon, creator of Fuck Your Podcast, the podcast. And when I say this young man has a beautiful soul, believe me. The universe threw us together about two weeks ago, but I can tell you that it feels like a lifetime already. So with that said, thank you so much for tuning in to my official first episode. Sit back, relax, spark one up, and jump down this rabbit hole with me. Let's get to it. Just a quick disclaimer before I cut to this interview with Roland. You will be entering in the middle of a conversation mid-daugh. It was literally 3 a.m. when we decided to hit the go button. And completely spontaneous. So much so that he didn't even realize I had hit record. I truly hope you enjoy our interactions and maybe leave here encouraged, motivated, and uplifted. Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

All thing that's been holding me back is me and depending on people. That's why I felt what you were saying. But you can't depend on me or mankind. They don't even go hard about their own dreams. So I'm just going crazy. Like I'm not pushing, I'm not half-stepping. I'm just doing it, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

When I leave this bitch, I want to be on E. I know. I need everything.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

I know I heard you say that the other day, and I love that. You gotta use every last drop of gas that you got. Take advantage of it all.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

Right. And I appreciate you too, man. And I'm proud of everything you're doing. You just stepping out and just say, you know, passion driven. It might not be a dream, but just something you want to do. You did it. A lot of people fucking scared to put their first foot forward.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

That's what I want to discuss. Once you get out your way and allow the opportunity to see confirmation in this different forms, we talked about light attracting light and how even in the virtual world, that energy and frequencies can be gauged in real time. And here we are. And I guess I just want to get your thoughts on our connection. How does it feel? This instant connection and collaboration that came out of left field.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

I just feel your vibe attracts your tribe. And honestly, man, it's just dope. Like my attract like mine. You know what I'm saying? That's the type of energy I'm putting out. I'm bringing people up. I'm working with people, working with not only like my, but people who got a difference in a pain. And I'm trying to figure out how we could collaborate together for the common goal. You know what I mean? That's what it's all about. And I'm just trying to reach out to everybody. And I realize everybody ain't for everything. Everybody ain't got to be my friend friend. But like if I can help you, help me, help us, let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

You know what I mean? That's perfect that you bring that up because I mentioned to you before when we connected and I started delving into your content, how I noticed I had already recorded my first episode and how in your first episode we pretty much verbatimly discussing the same thing in terms of villages. And I was talking to you about virtual villages and that concept I have, and that I want to build upon. To me, your podcast, fuck your podcast, is exemplifying that everything that you're doing and promoting other people, putting other people's businesses in the forefront. When I think for me, when I think of fuck your podcast, that's exactly what I think. Fuck your podcast, because you're out there already. You're doing big things, and we appreciate what you're doing for the culture. You know, there are other voices out here that need to be heard. And what are you really doing to reach the people that's in the trenches, not the people that's keeping you famous and other famous people that you talk to? I don't hear you talking about real issues with real people. Y'all talking amongst yourselves.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

And it's entertainment, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Entertainment. Exactly, man. Support support, man. I'm out here on the soil. I'll connect them with the people. Really don't give a fuck who you are. Even if you're in from all night, if you got a story, or if you got something to talk about, or if you want to come vent, or especially if you're funny. You gotta laugh, though, no matter what we talk about. I want you to feel refreshed after you check my shit out. So to the underdogs to fuck your podcast for you, the prior to meeting all these other podcasters in the podcast group. Everybody who I knew had a podcast was famous. Y'all already lit. You know what I'm saying? We gotta work a little bit harder. So we're gonna work together.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

Exactly. Difference is in what you say. Fuck your podcast. Your shit is entertainment. You know, the shit that I'm trying to do, and that's on the level with what you're trying to do, is real shit for real people. It's authentic, it's genuine. When we say for the culture, we mean for the village. Because I've mentioned several times before on social media and I've told to you too that our traditional villages are no longer. People don't know who they live next door to anymore, or have any kind of idea. There's no interaction. Oh, it takes a village to raise a child. Look around your village and ask yourself, do you want the village's hands in raising your children? And nine times out of ten, the answer is gonna be no, because the village is not there. It's toxic. And it's up to people like us, dope souls that can just instantly connect, add water and stir. And if we can come together in the span of a week and have this connection, this energy, why can't we supply that and find other people that's just like us and take all our collective knowledge, our collective talent, and support and motivate and uplift, give or care, or promote or whatever have you into our own communities so that we can see this shit in real time.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

Absolutely. Absolutely. And all us who are not famous or in the entertainment industry, we're all on the come up. You know what I mean? Back in my day, which I don't promote this shit. I used to be a drug dealer. I used to have a lot of customers though, not because I had the best or nothing like that, but I used to have the best prices, the best deals. How can I help you help me, help us? You know what I mean? I've always been like that. And then in 2020, when I started the podcast, I would do it, and I'm promoting, but I won't go on crazy like I am now. I was mainly trying to build a label, label with all indie people. Like I know a guy who makes liars. I know a guy who makes beats. I know a guy who makes videos. You know what I mean? I know a guy who edits music, and they're on a comeback just like I'm on a come up. So I was like, how about we all come together and make this label? We can all pitch in and have a per se. It don't even fucking matter. I don't even want all the money. But I think we'll be stronger together in-house for us buyers. You know what I'm saying? When like Malcolm A said, why beg a man to go work in HFX the way you can build your own? That's what we're doing over here.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

And I love that. I commend that. Before you even delve into that, what I want to know is how fuck your podcast came to be. You talk about your past as a drug dealer, but put me through how you decided to choose a different path for your life. Because we know some people that just love the hustle, love the lifestyle, and that there's nothing that you can say or do that's gonna make them want different lifestyles. What they say and pay it in full, he just love to hustle. You know what I'm saying? He lived for that shit. And those people, unfortunately, you can't bring with you. They want to stay stuck in the trenches. That's what they like and love, that's where they gonna be. How did you choose a different path and then lead me to how fuck your podcast came to be?

SPEAKER_01 8:12

Man, I always had a mind. You know what I mean? When I first started going against the ground, a lot of people was like, Why are you doing this? You didn't have to do this, you didn't have to go this route. But I moved around a lot as a kid. Hence why I know a lot of people, I got a lot of connections. I've been moving around since first. But anyway, Junior High started going against the grand, starting life of crime, going to jail, stuff like that. After my last bit, my last long, long a bit, which it wasn't that long. It was long enough for me to wait.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah. How long does it have to be, really, brother? Like a day is long enough for me, shoot. I ain't trying to be in there no longer than I have to be.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

Exactly. And it could have broke me when I first got in there. Because everybody in the hall of still crying about having a bug. I had to sit in there on Christmas. It was cold when I went in, it was hot when I got out. But not any pity because you know, I was in there with people who did 15 years. It wasn't nothing small to a job. But when I got out, I still got back in the streets. I still was doing the street stuff, and I was just starting to see my peers, man. My peers was falling one by one, wasting their life in prison. I got a couple friends that's no longer with us, people younger than me, or people my age, and amazing. I ended up having my first shot, my son. And that's when I steered away from this. And I still feel like I didn't get where I wanted to be. You know what I mean? Um, my other classmates was going to college, and my homegirl Ralissa, she was about to be a lawyer. My friend Jasmine C or RN. Man, I need to get my shit together. Stuck on probation, felony probation, I was on first offender. So if I got caught again, they was gonna give me the max for that charge. It's one word. Whatever I had left on probation every four years or whatever, but who wanna do that?

SPEAKER_02 9:44

That's what I hate. And something I think that you can also tackle on the fuck your podcast. Our brothers, our kings, feeling like they are built to do a bid. Oh, I'm built to do that time. I hate to hear that shit. Ain't nobody built to do that. That's trauma on trauma all day long. And it's not so simple as saying those quick anecdotal who wants to be around niggas all day. No, it's more than that. It's a whole culture, you know, designed to break you down and keep a revolving door of you coming back. It's designed for you to come back.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

You almost went back. You just said, if I didn't make this choice, this is what I would have been doing, and it would have been a cycle.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

And it might have been even longer than that because what I had on probation, if I would have gotten a whole new charge and it was the same charge, who knows what it's doing. And I had the same judge to the whole thing. Who knows? Got tired of seeing you again. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. But I will say this though, I don't like nobody for what they do. But the thing is, do what you gotta do and get up out of there. I went to work, but then I got back in the streets. But this time I wasn't the hustler, I was the customer. You know what I mean? Okay, okay. Yeah, so that's a part of my story too. And the lady I was with, we did what he had to do to meet, make.

SPEAKER_02 10:54

We lived in hotel. You was the plug, you was the dealer, and here you are on the other side of that coin as the customer.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

I was embarrassed with myself, mind you. By this time, I had two kids in the world, and I had none of them. You know what I mean? My daughter was with my granddad, and my son, we didn't know where he was at because his mama just felt I was just pissed poor as a father, which I was. And uh, that was another reason to get my shit together.

SPEAKER_02 11:18

So for sure. I can't imagine having a child out there in the world knowing that you have a son as a man, progeny in the world lost without a father. Once again, it ties back around to what we're gonna continue to always talk about is a village. We gotta create a village because who Lord, we need some help out here. You need a help. We do, you know what I'm saying? I did. You need a help. I did prayer and intercession from family and those who love you in a support system. But what about those who didn't have that mama on her knees? You know what I'm saying? What do we do about that?

SPEAKER_01 11:52

Why go so hard with the podcast now? Because people seeing me walking out 316 with my shirt off, strong out. The homeboys didn't want to talk to me. I didn't have none of my kids. The girl I was with, she fucking she sold ass. You know what I'm saying? So it was crazy. People were frowning upon me, even my closest people. And everybody back home, they already knew I lived a wild life. Back to your question. I just lead by example, man. And everybody loves a good underdog story because when an underdog wears, it gives people hope. This motherfucker could go through all this and did all this, was walking down three, six tags, fucking getting locked up, have none of his kids. Now he's a successful black man, now he's following his dreams. I can fucking do it too. You know what I mean? I had to go through all the shit I had to go through, then talk to somebody. Because imagine if it was all perfect and I'm trying to give somebody advice. I nigga, I don't want to listen to you.

SPEAKER_02 12:40

You can't even relate to me. And that's the thing about even judging people by their cover. Everybody has a testimony, and that's what I hate. People want to compare war stories and compare war wounds. Well, look at mine. Mine's bigger or greater than yours. Your experience doesn't minimize my experience. Because what I was going through was real for me in my time, and what you were going through was real for you in your time. It's just being able to meet people where they are and recognize that, hey, I can look at Roland and not know that he led a life of criminal activity, that he led a life of a downward spiral of drugs and and behaviors that was toxic for him, his family, his children. I can look at you and the guy that I see today, and that's growth right there. And you gotta use that to help those people and beyond. Because like I said, hell, we don't have the village anymore. So we have to take this shit online to our virtual villages. This is where everybody is at. This is where everybody's hanging at all day, every day. Your device is their hand, you're in the bathtub with it, you're on the toilet with it, you're driving in the car with it. It's in your hand, you can't put it down. So, this is where a lot of people are living their lives right now. We have to meet them where they're at. Because we can't meet them in the community. Why not take advantage and make this a movement? Everybody that wanna come along with us and help our brothers and sisters out of the trenches because we got a lot of ugly shit coming our way, and nobody's prepared. We stuck on inconsequential shit that don't make any sense. Everybody's sleeping, and we want to try to help wake people up. That's it. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

Like I said, man, I used to battle a lot on the way up to getting to this point. You try to bring everybody with me. And but the best thing that worked for me is just really leading by example. Right. Now people come to me. Now people come to me instead of me trying to come to them and then they reject it or think I'm getting onto them and pushing them away. So I lead by example. Now people like, yo, I'm proud of you. I see the growth. Thank God for growth. Man, it's crazy what you're doing. You motivated me. I just do my shit, stay in my whole land and be the best version of myself. Because once I become the best version of myself, everything I touch is gonna be gold. Everything, everybody I interact is gonna be gold. I'm gonna be a better father, better friend, better son, better grandson. You know what I mean? But to break it full circle, you ask me how did we get to the podcast from all of that? Like I said, from being in the streets, from moving around a lot, basically everything I told you, it comes full circle. So now I know a lot of people. I got a lot of contacts. Some of them are like family to me. I stayed in many different states, and I like to talk. I'm a Libra. I talk my ass on.

SPEAKER_02 15:23

Is that a Libra thing? I don't know, because I'm an Aquarius and I run my mouth a lot. That's why that's why we got a podcast.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Right. Your Amazon, Libra, Shimmer, Afwarious.

SPEAKER_03 15:37

Oh interesting.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Long story short, in the pandemic, I was moving around a lot and I was talking about it, talking about it for the longest, but I was kind of caught up in the hustle. I done boggled down, got my CDLs, went back to Louisiana, moved to Kansas City, making niggas out there. Everybody loved me out there because I was different. They love my stories and me driving. I listen to a lot of podcasts, and I'm like, this shit wrong. My favorite podcast that's famous is fucking 80 by the South. So and they remind me of me and my dogs how we fucking chill and play around and crack jokes and talk about current events. So I'm like, shit, I can fucking do that shit. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 16:11

Like, why not me? Why not you?

SPEAKER_01 16:13

And then, like I said, I know a lot of people, so they're gonna tune in any even if it wasn't good, they're gonna at least try the first fucking episode. You know what I mean? Just because they know me. And anyway, in 2020, I tried it on Spotify and I had the gang on there. I had a couple great ass. I had this woke woman. She was just talking about the revolution on there. And like woke woman. Woke Woman.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

And like the title of a song. Woke Woman. You need to write that down. Woke Woman.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

Woke Woman. Even my parents were supported me, so I feel good about it. So one day I was about to be 31. And I looked at it like this, man. I said, look at all this stuff I've been through. All these times I be to death. All this bullshit I done got out of, wiggled all out of. I probably lived half of my life, maybe. The average black man died 65. I'm 31. I live that twice, I'm 62. I'm damn near there. If that's the case, you know what I mean? I said, man, you know what? If I live half of my life, I want to do this shit right now. Everybody who I love, I want to tell them I love. Everything I want to do, I want to fucking do it. If you dream my hand, I want to at least do it. Even if I don't do it forever, I don't really care about music, but I always wanted to shoot a live video with my dogs. I'm gonna do it. Okay. I'm not a comedian, but I want to do one stand-up set. I want to do a fucking stand-up set before I die. I want to go to Africa before I die. I want to do this podcast shit. And then once I started, I was like, okay, we're gonna do something different. I need a mic, I need a camera, I need this, I need that, I need this. And I didn't have none of it. So I said, you know what? I'm gonna get this fucking phone because the camera looks great on it. My boy gave me a fucking$20 mic that could plug into my phone. I had the app that I already did, the City of Flame song made the video for in 2020. I bought it. So I got all the fissures, and we're just gonna fucking make it work because we talk all day, every day.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

And what did she tell me? Life is what? Our conversations is a podcast.

SPEAKER_01 17:55

The podcast. And then as a truck driver, you gotta realize this. All I do is sit on this phone and talk all fucking day.

SPEAKER_02 18:02

People say that all day long on the news, mass media. We need to have more conversation about X, Y, and Z, but the conversation isn't authentic. The conversation isn't real. The conversation has an agenda and a narrative to push. And I'm hoping that what you're trying to do on your platform is gonna help open doors for a lot of different people mentally, financially, and just whatever else have you. I manifest that for your show, and I see so many different possibilities. We've talked about it. I don't know if anybody else will be able to tell or not. But when I talk to you, it's just I've always known you. Conversation is easy, and we always have a good conversation that just flows. And I feel like if we can do it, why can't we do it with anybody else? You know, I'll talk about this with the next person. And I know we have to protect our energy and be choosy who we share our energy with. But I think that when you understand energy and understand your very own frequency is easier to hear when other people are tapping into it. And that's what you need to pay attention to because if you paid attention to that, you would avoid those people that are not on your frequency anyway. Stop trying to tune that. Right, stop trying to tune them into your frequency. They either in tune or they ain't, and it's not up to you to get them in tune, you know.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

And that's why a lot of people who I do interact with, uh, who I even just get a drop from. I catch a vibe with, you know. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

This is what a vibe is in real time, dude. We don't know each other in real life. Right. You don't know me, you don't even really know much about me yet. And I still don't even know much about you. I look forward to growing with you, and hopefully, our connection will be able to grow in a way that is not only collaborative, but that is also supportive. And with support comes empathy. With empathy comes communication. You have to be on a level with somebody to even be able to operate on that frequency with them. And I don't know you, but I know your energy. I know that's enough for me to be able to interact with you. Like I hear your voice, I see your podcast, I see what you're trying to do, and that's enough for me to love you and support you and pour into you. And it's that easy. Why can't it be that easy for everybody else? This is how we build community, this is how we build real change, this is how we get our minds right, how we get our bodies right, our finances right, our family right. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

Absolutely. And I always state up the reason why Atlanta is so successful in the music industry. The reason it's a stronghold. There's a lot of people doing their thing right now, but the reason Atlanta got the crown is because they all support each other. They all build each other up, share each other's stuff, work with each other. That's why Atlanta is successful. Not because the music is just that much better than a Memphis or that much better than a Florida or Chicago. Is it because the unity? And I take that same approach, that same system, and I put it into this shit. You know what I mean? That's just how I operate. I've always been like that though.

SPEAKER_02 21:01

That's a beautiful thing. That's a virtual village, that's the foundation and the blueprint to help get us back on track.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

Absolutely, absolutely. And you know, and whatever you put out, you hit multiplies just to keep going what you're doing. Keep doing what you're doing. And like I said, it's all about you and it's good with me. Because the thing is, you're connected to people I'm not connected to, and vice versa. So we merge together, we reach a bigger audience. And bring more people in and like-minded people, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 21:29

Because that's all we need, because it's just some people get stuck. We talked about that lifestyle, and that's something else. The struggle mentality, the feeling that if you don't struggle, that you don't know nothing about nothing. My kids don't deserve to struggle. They can see me struggle, that's enough. That's enough for them to see their mama struggle. I don't feel like they the struggle in order to understand life. Now they can go through trials and tribulations, but no. Hey, don't have a struggle, Mattelli.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

Hey, don't have to struggle, Matalli, because you're gonna face adversity and it's like. But the adversity out there to bring you down, but it to build you up. You know what I mean? Exactly. And that's all it's for. Just grow for it. Don't stay still. Like I said, everybody. Oh my congregation, as I say. It's never ever about what happens. It's about how you bounce back from it. Because shit gonna happen. Shit always gonna happen. You know what I mean? This is life. Even if you fucking stay in the house and don't do shit and live under the rock, that is motherfuckers that trip on the fucking steps and break their neck. You know what I mean? So it's always gonna be shit. It's always gonna be something, but it's just about how you bounce back from it and what you learn from it and make sure you learn from it. Because waking up is risky. Life is risky because ain't none of us gonna make it out of this bitch alive. You know what I mean? You take a risk. You see it.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

Say it. Ain't none of us going to make it out of here alive, y'all. And that's just a fact. Make it count for the city. Make it count. We living to die.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

Oh, and that's saying it is temporary. This shit is short, man. Like I said, a lot of those partners younger than me. I was sent to my partner on Wednesday. It was going on a Friday. So it's just that short. So it's just like you say, make it count. And when I say take risks, I don't necessarily mean go crazy and crash out and go fucking rob a bank and that like this. But like your passion, your dreams, your goals. You know what I'm saying? Do it now. Because you know, you don't know what is gonna happen tomorrow. That's why my mama said she said, God damn, boy. You done told me I'm proud of you and I love you every fucking time you talk to me. I know I don't plan on checking out no time soon. But if one of us check out, that was the last thing I fucking said to you. You know what I mean? I want to know that if I do check out soon, I was a good father. I was pursuing my dreams. I influenced people to chase theirs by chasing mine. That's a fulfilled life to me. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 23:39

And that's enough for some people. Some people it's not. I don't know. That's a whole conversation.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

But to it's just all. Everybody got their own journey, everybody got their own purpose. And some people don't even know who the fuck they are in the first fucking place.

SPEAKER_02 23:52

Scared to find out, scared to dig deep and go in the trenches of their own.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

But it is scary. It is scary, you know what I mean? Being vulnerable and facing some things that's inside of you and it's always growth in it. It's necessary.

SPEAKER_02 24:06

It is absolutely and it won't be as hard, even though it's something that ultimately we have to do by ourselves. We have to go on this trial alone. Can't nobody come with us. It's at least knowing that somebody is out there on the other side waiting for you to come up out of whatever it is that you need to go through in order to grow and be the person that you see yourself being.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

Right, absolutely. And then I just watched uh Kevin Gates interview on Big Boy. And he said it's more scary to be vulnerable than to be like me and aggressive. It's more scary to be vulnerable.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

I can see that because it's not a safe space to be vulnerable. If you aren't forming to these ideals that are fickle, that changes from generation to generation. One thing is in, the next is out at any given moment. If you aren't in alignment with the sheep, then you are now considered what the black sheep. You're different, you're odd, you're abnormal, you're the anomaly. When in actuality, you should be celebrated. Not only for your individuality, for the simple fact that you can think for yourself. It always amazed me in high school, and I went to a high school that actually had subsets of cliques. We had goth kids, we had the math athletes, the athletes, the popular kids, you know what I'm saying? The druggies, the we even had taggers who spray painted. We had all different types of kids. What stood out to me the most was especially those that were considered emo or goth, that they were so comfortable enough with themselves at that age. That's career. You know what I'm saying? I didn't think about it at the time. I can appreciate the fact that they were comfortable enough to say fuck you and the bitches that you came with. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna do me. And I like that, you know, and I like that shit.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

I'm just gonna be mean. Hey, let me shout out to Key, man. Don't give my boy his flowers, man. So I go from Louisiana to like Missouri. I talk different, I walk different, I look different. I've always been different. But my boy King, he really made me embrace it. Once I started being myself, I realized how so many more people was attracted to me. My boy King told me the value of uh just don't give a fuck. Man, this dude, when everybody was wearing bagging clothes, he was wearing skinny jeans. He was one of them guys had a bald head when he was 24. He just always doing fucking different off-the-wall shit. You know what I mean? And I ain't gonna lie, my life out there, he don't even know this. I want him to fucking hear this. I just admire so much at a young age, he just never gave a fuck. And he will whoop hey, don't play with him because he'll whoop your motherfucking ass too.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

But Drake says, I look light, but I'm heavy though. Yeah, little light but I'm heavy though. You think Drake will pull some shit like that, you never know.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

No, no. Hey, I might look light. Well, fuck with it. All right, all right what they say, fuck around and find out. Fuck around and find out. For sure.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

Yeah, man. But that's beautiful to me, just being comfortable in your own skin and try different hairstyles, try different styles of clothing, and just finding your own individuality style, or just simply liking what you like, simply because you like it.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

See anybody out there just like in the world where you could be anything in the motherfucking world, be yourself. Amen. It pays to be yourself. I swear. You can't go wrong being yourself. Hey man, it's cheaper to be yourself. Ain't no wrong way to be.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

And you just said something earlier. You was like when you started being yourself, more people liked you. To me, it's not even the more people, it's the right people. Because once again, when you recognize your frequency, you are in tune to other frequencies that are matching yours. When people say match your energy, that's what that means. Do you know what you're saying, or are you just regurgitating stuff? That's a vibe. I want to catch a vibe and oh, energy this and energy that, but you don't even know what you're talking about. You just regurgitating information or words that you hear other people saying, all right, with no real understanding behind it. And then if you don't have understanding, you can't comprehend it enough to apply it to your own life. Uh-huh. So you can see it working. Understand, you know what you're talking about, people. Instant connection can happen. Light attracts light. Uh period. We're always gonna gravitate towards each other, whether it's in the real world or the virtual world. All right, and like I said, we came together just through conversation in the virtual world off that blue app. Shout out to the fake book, shout out to the blue app, you know what I'm saying? But people like us are out there. We're gonna find them and we all gonna come together and make some shit shake. Hey, look, just in time, did you hear that track go off just in time? We making shit shake around here. You hear me?

SPEAKER_01 29:06

I make a shit shake.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Yes, so tell me, you promised to tell me about Ro Lennon and Mr. Black Shays. I'm gonna hear it all. Tell me how you got this name, because I know that's not your government name.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

Okay, so yeah, everybody who knows me personal, they give me his quiz. But uh, Ro Lennon, man. My boy Trevor taught me about the you know the law of attraction. And when I actually start applying it, he was like, bro, it's not today, it's not tomorrow, it's not where your taxes come, it's not where you get this job, none of that. You gotta start it right now. If you want to be successful, you gotta be successful mentally right now. You gotta act like it. You gotta walk like it. Fake it till you make it some of the best fucking advice I ever got, right? So once I start, but I was like, yo, I'm thinking global now. This shit bigger than life. I'm like, I need to think of a name. And it took me a long time to come up with this name. But I'm from Monroe, Louisiana. Like I told you before, it's a place where a lot of people don't make an ad of. But I've been moving around, I've been doing a lot of cool shit. I know a lot of people. I've been in multiple rap roles, we didn't did shows, I done met famous people. I live like a rock star, a beetle, like a black beetle. The role Lennon, the role and the linen represents somebody who came from the small town of Louisiana, becoming this great phenomenon, touching the world. Because John Lennon, he wasn't just a uh a beetle. He spoke about peace and spoke about a positivity to the world, even to the community.

SPEAKER_02 30:23

Using this platform to discuss issues.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

I am him. So I just want to represent the idea of being Lord in the act, people coming and coming up and being so much greater, the caterpillar to a butterfly. So that's what role linen is. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:39

It's awesome, man. I like that. That makes sense. A young revolutionary.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

All right, all right. That's where it comes from. Yeah, you know, winning linen, man, because that's just how we're gonna talk about it. We win it, keep winning, stay winning. My boy Bones talked about it on my podcast on episode two. He was talking about how people talk to the water, and uh, they just talked to it. That's all they did. Like how people talk to plants. The water they actually talk to had perfect pH balance, it was perfect, it was drinkable, but the water they didn't talk to was all fucked up and all that. Your body's mostly water, so you need to watch how you're talking to yourself every day. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 31:12

I like how you make that that correlation because yes, our body is composed of water. Blood may be thicker than water, but water is essential to life. For example, you I would consider water. I don't know you. We haven't hung out or anything like that, but at the same time, we're providing life to each other. Are we not being a support system to each other? You know, the life blood of interaction and community, this virtual community that I'm trying to build and that you've offered to tag along and help me in your own way and branch off and create your own pocket village. And to me, that's a beautiful thing. There's water all around us, and there's life all around us. And in regards to what you're saying, yes, that negative self-talk. Watch how you're talking to yourself, think about what you're thinking about. And if your body is water, imagine just your body being fucked up all the time because of the toxicity that you're pouring into it.

SPEAKER_01 32:11

And also, too, man, just like the thoughts. You gotta think about thoughts that like those people. If you know I rob shit, I'm taking everything, I'm a taker. I'm gonna rob you, I'm gonna rob you out your drawers, I'm gonna rob your house. You want to let me in your house? But why would you let those type of thoughts in your mind? Right. It don't make sense. I don't get it. You know what I mean? Your thoughts you become absolutely, absolutely, absolutely manifest that.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

So when those things happen, you expect those things to happen and you accept that those things are happening, and that's when you hear people say, That's just the way the cookie crumbles, that's just life. No, that's just choice. Everybody has choices. You're out here choosing every day. Roll Lennon, Quez is choosing to talk to Tanya, a black mamba right now, a virtual stranger that he's never met before. But that's a choice. Everything in your life is a choice. What you're doing, every decision, every move that you make is a choice. Do so with intention, do so with purpose.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

Right, right, absolutely. It's a simple enough to make a choice, but that don't mean it's gonna be easy. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 33:19

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 33:21

It's my look, my sister, my crazy ass sister tell you just because you pour syrup on shit don't make it pancakes.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

Absolutely. Absolutely. She just crazy. Hey, shout out to the shit. Shout out to Tamika. Look, shout out to my sister Tamika. Everywhere like dog shit, you know? I swear that's the quote of the day. Yeah, we everywhere like dog shit. We everywhere like dogs.

SPEAKER_02 33:52

Everybody is quoting that. I told her, I was like, you're awesome. And these are our conversations all the time. That's healing. We're sisters. We popped out the same coochie. Shout out cookie. You know what I'm saying? We didn't share each other's clothes, but I got into her clothes and she got into my ass for always getting into her clothes. So you know, we, you know, that's my sister. But unfortunately, a lot of people don't have that connection with their family, with their brothers, with their sisters, with their mothers and fathers. My relationship with my sister is the same relationship I have with my mom, with my dad, with my family. We are so family-oriented. And it hurts when I hear other people's experiences or when I witness shit. It's hurtful because it's just a cycle of toxicity, generational curses over and over again. The solution is just so easy. So even though people didn't have access to the kind of family, growing up in the same household with both parents and not being able to have that kind of stability, especially as a young black kid, then it's up to us to fill in the gap. Period. My children are growing up in the world with your children. Does it not make sense for me? Does it not isn't that both beneficial? Because once our kids go to school, that's their job. First shift, correct? When they get out of school, guess what? They're doing recreational activities along with their peers again. Nine times out of ten, when your kids grow up, you're only seeing them for a little bit of time when they get home. Because when they get home, they're gonna be doing their own thing. Homework or on the game or on the phone. So you have very you're gonna start to have very little contact. And that contact you have is gonna be very important because the rest of that contact is coming from the peers. It's coming from the world. You know what I'm saying? They're gonna be out there in the world with these same kids that did not have the same parents that they got, they're not having the same experiences that you have, and then enters the social dilemma, peer pressure, and all that extra shit to change, and everything comes into play. Our culture, our music, you know. Um you know, everything that's being pushed right now. It's coming at all angles. And we see it. We see it. We have six-year-olds shooting teachers at school, you know what I'm saying? We got internet and social media beef, and our young kids out here shooting each other up. And look, we losing our celebrities. Right? But for what? For what? What is it profiting? The ignorance of it all, lives ruined, going to jail, look at Tyree Nichols all over what? All over what? Because of a girl, that's enough for you to look at your brother and do him like that. The world is sick, and we don't have family anymore. We just don't. We gotta be a family to each other.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

We just have to exactly, exactly, like the old days. If you out there fucking up in the streets and shit, Miss Sally from two dollars down, she gonna get on your ass. If she don't get on your ass, she's gonna walk to your front door, say your mama or you're not that long.

SPEAKER_02 36:49

Somebody gonna get on your ass.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

Yeah, yeah. Because like you said, that was a feeling back then. The times is just different, people are crazy, you know what I mean? And uh we're just in a different world. We're just in a different world.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

But we have to, and that's okay. We can't do nothing about that though. We have to adapt. Which is just and we have to find creative ways, different ways that we haven't found yet. It's 2023, and we still talking about the same shit that we was talking about in 2000, in regards to anything in society and culture, to music, to fashion, to politics, to race relations, to everything. We still own the same shit. Still ain't shit changed. What has changed? Nothing. Things are progressively getting more extreme, more polarized.

SPEAKER_03 37:37

Well, that's what's happening.

SPEAKER_02 37:39

We're still having the same conversation, still doing the same thing. But in the meantime, we're still getting sicker. Mental health is the biggest issue that we're facing today, and we're seeing it play out in real time in our communities, across the news, motherfuckers, mass shooting, and just the craziest shit is happening in real time. But what are we really concerned with? Is the question.

SPEAKER_01 38:04

It's crazy, but I will say this though. In my opinion, the world is getting crazier, but it's more and more people talking how we're talking than it was before. You know what I mean? So I'm big on my number one motto is couch awareness. You know what I mean? Like couch awareness, cuz a lot of stuff that we talk about now was taboo. Right. Yeah, yeah, you know, back in the day.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

Exactly. So everything is in your face, ain't nothing off the table. Nothing's safe. Everything's open for discussion.

SPEAKER_01 38:31

So I will say that part. And the people who are not on it, I just don't worry about them. You know what I mean? Because everybody exactly everybody on a different journey. If I can help you, I'm gonna try. But I don't think I could do a suggest. Only thing I could do is try.

SPEAKER_02 38:44

What do we want to do? Everybody got what? Choices. Right. Everybody out here choosing. Every day you choosing. All right.

SPEAKER_01 38:52

Whatever you can't say, all people shit.

SPEAKER_02 38:54

Right. Whatever your situation is, you choosing. That's it. That's my response to everything. That's the key word around here. Everybody got choices. At the end of the day, yeah, there are people like me and you having these conversations, but we spread out. We need to come together. That's the whole point. Connection.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

Oh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 39:10

We need to build these connections because everybody is having these individual conversations, but nobody is collectively having these conversations. And I feel like if we can spread and have a movement and create this shit for everybody, man, just man, this could do a lot for our community online, virtually, just especially for our children. It can be rocked so many ways for everybody, for all of us.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

Most of sure, definitely powerful. Not gonna lie, man. Uh I feel like sometimes the powers of beating. I hate to say it, but uh, that's why I'm touching the people. That's why I'm headed city to city, small businesses. Basically, our voice is gonna be louder together. You know what I mean? You you got the fire, I got the wood. Let's do it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 39:56

Let's spark it up for real. Tell me about episode five and when we can expect that drop.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

First and foremost, don't poke me on the dates. But I'm pushing for this month. I'm trying to get in the habit of every month. I would do it every week, but it's just a lot of editing. I drive a truck full time. I get these drops myself. I do the editing myself. I got a hell of a marketing team. But as far as editing, pulling up on people, shooting the episode. Right. I usually do have one of my two co-hosts with me. But like I said, I got a hell of a marketing team. I'm thankful for them. I appreciate all they do for me. The like the shares, the repost, everything. But I do a lot of my own studies. There's a lot on one man. So we're gonna shoot for this month, the end of this month. And um, episode five, I'm bringing it in with my brothers, my Louisiana brothers, because I got more Georgia episodes than Louisiana episodes. I only got one Louisiana episode, so this will bring it back home the two people I grew up with from ninth grade. Both my good brothers is surviving. We got National Chemistry, and I got a lot of stuff on the floor with other people who, you know, more or less that I'm not so close with. So I wanted to do it right and promote all my close people, the stuff they had going on, and promote my hometown. So later on, when we get to big names or whatever, just the bigger guests, they could be like, okay, he started off putting on his people first before he did anything. So I want to highlight them guys over there. And that's what we're gonna do for episode five. And man, we're just working. I'm gonna get more women on the show. Maybe episode six or seven if I wanna have women guests. I got a lot coming up, man. I got a lot coming up. We just working.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

Okay. Tell me where I can find fuck your podcast.

SPEAKER_01 41:32

Okay, really exclusively on YouTube, but you know, I post the links on all my social handles. Facebook, rollin', Instagram, rollinen318. That's R-O-E-L-E. And YouTube is fuck your podcast by rollinen. Or if you just type in roll in, I'll be the first one to pop up. So I'm rolling in every day. The original, the original Rolennon. Roll in it, man. Roll Lenin's show, the greatest show on earth. I'm just trying to make them believe. Not even just make them believe in me, but just believe in yourself. Look at my story. You know, where I came from first season, first episode, 20 views. Look at the numbers now. Whatever it is you want to do, whatever it is you believe in, whatever your message is, be confident that confidence speaks more than anything. And believe in yourself. You know, don't nobody support you, support yourself. Don't stop, keep going, stay consistent. You know what I'm saying? The mind sees what it believes. See what I'm saying? So just believe in yourself. That's all you gotta do. Don't worry about it. Just keep going and stay consistent, man. Got that.

SPEAKER_02 42:31

And we look at you. Come fuck with us. Because I think it's Ro Lennon who told me that collaboration is the new currency. And it is. That's just fit. And I'm running with it. So you heard it here first.

SPEAKER_01 42:49

Hey man, it's your boy Rolennon, aka Winnie Lennon, aka Mr. Black Shades. And you tune in to Mumble Roll and I'll show.

SPEAKER_02 42:57

All right, let's go.

SPEAKER_01 42:58

And let's go. Peace out. Peace out.

SPEAKER_02 43:10

All right, all right, all right. Shout out to Row Lennon and the entire fuck yo podcast, the podcast family. I sincerely hope that tonight's episode sits well in your spirit and that you consider all that was discussed, especially about virtual villages. Virtual villages, as you heard, is a concept of mine in development to help minister to each other and our communities. I will be discussing the concept throughout this season. And if you have any thoughts, opinions, suggestions, anything about this concept or even the podcast, I would love to hear from you. Links to both. Mamba Raw and Unfiltered and Fuck Yo Podcast The Podcast are available for you below. Once you get a hold of those links, you know what to do. Go like, follow, and share on your favorite social media platforms. Run it up. I am genuinely attempting to do something positive and can use all of your support. And don't forget, go out and check the fuck yo podcast, the podcast, exclusively on YouTube. It's been great, beautiful people, but it is my boring day, and after spending it editing this episode, I am ready to sit back and chill. Maybe go merc a few people on Call of Duty. Until next time, be good, be safe, and stay healthy. Peace.