For The Culture: Building With DaTunnel Radio

What you are about to hear is more than an interview, it is a building session with two of the hottest DJs on internet radio. DaTunnel Radio, as its name suggests, is a place where underground music thrives. If you are tired of mainstream music, its' agenda, and predictability, check out the links provided below and tune into their show six nights a week at 9:14 PM Eastern/Standard time and catch a vibe like no other. In the meantime, jump down this rabbit hole with me and be prepared for a higher vibrational conversation about life, music, and culture.

DaTunnel Radio Links

iHeart Radio
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-da-tunnel-radio-112327681/

Spotify
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/datunnel-radio

Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/DaTunnelRadio

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:24

Hello, kings and queens. What's good? It's your girl, Black Mamba. Did you miss me? I know it's been a hot minute since you last heard from me. This last surgery was hell, and I promised that I needed every last ounce of energy going towards my recovery. But I'm back and I got you something big, fresh. Something that is hot and ready to be just there. On tonight's episode, I'm tapping in with Del Tunnel Radio. An online radio show that highlights underground music artists and producers along with DJ and DJ as an instrument of my recovery mentally. When you love music as a magic idea, it can be a can do it for healing. And I believe human energy can always be found in the tunnel. I want to thank you so much, Amaz, for coming in wherever you are in the world. I am so blessed to have your ear. So sit back, relax, and jump down this rabbit hole with me as I build with AJ Grand as I don't know. And the culture, whatever that means. You know what? That's how it is when you talk about doing something. I find myself trying to be more intentional in this season in my life. When I tell somebody, I'ma call you, we gonna get lunch, and it never happens because nobody is intentional. You have good intentions, but you're not intentional with your intentions. So if I say we gonna do this, I need to know, okay, well, when's a good day for you? Let's go ahead and get it in the books right now and let's get it done and and just following through because life be life and yeah, facts, man. Facts. But um, yeah, I'm gonna move into you know whatever, and we just go from there. If you're ready, I'm ready. Let's get it. Tonight I am connecting and building with one of two of the hottest underground music DJs, DJ Grants, host of the Tunnel Radio Show, where you can listen to and review the dopest underground music artists from all over the world. I was blessed to find them through a random virtual connection on Facebook and have been rocking with them ever since. The Tunnel Radio is definitely for the culture, no lies told. They offer you an alternative to mainstream trends and music and is doing its part to make music great again. So go check them out. We'll have links available. DJ Grands is gonna tell you everything you need to know about the tunnel radio.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

And well, dang, I can't follow that. You just told us everything they need to know. I ain't got nothing to say after that.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

We got links, we gotta know where we can listen to you at, when, where, how, all that good stuff. So you know that better than I do. I just know when to tune in. Where to go when to be ready? So I know all that, but it's all love. Um, so what's up? Uh, this is one of two DJ Grands. We have a Djane, we in the tunnel, his beautiful wife in second half, which you guys, I'm gonna tell you this. Y'all need each other. Like you guys are so amazing.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Like, if she ain't live with me, it's not the same. It is not like I'm talking and like and vice versa.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

I love how you guys build off each other. Y'all energy is hype, y'all are funny. I never hear any disagreements, you know what I'm saying? And even when y'all do do something funny, or she's fussing at you, or you say something to her, slick, or whatever, y'all play that stuff off, and it come off so naturally. Tell me about the concept for the tunnel radio, how that came about. Yeah, and talk to me. Tell me about the inception.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

Well, yeah, so about um, I think in 2019, I seen this dude on, I forgot what social media at, but he was like at a radio station and he was like, yo, I'll play your song and I'll review it. And I'll like, so I watched it, and when I was watching, I heard him reviewing the songs, and you know, I made music at that time, so I heard him reviewing the songs, and I didn't really agree with everything he was saying, you know, because I felt like he was reviewing it for the artist to fit into a specific box, but the artist what you know, he don't have to limit himself to that box. And I felt like, you know, I was like, damn, you know, I should start something for artists since I don't rap no more. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not rapping no more, but I still got a crazy musical mind. I'm always that's all I do is build about music all day, anyway. All I do is what I'm doing right now, like what you see me do when we live. I've been doing that my whole life, just bigging people up, networking with rappers, like you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 5:28

Right. Tell me then your relationship with music. And you just told me how you became uh one of the DJs of the most meaningful, I like to think meaningful underground music radio shows online. I promise, and I don't say that lightly. I give y'all my energy when I can consistently, and that says a lot because I love music. Music is a big part of my life, it likewise, it helps me heal, it brings me joy, it brings me peace, it helps me sleep, it plays a major big role in different aspects of my life. So tell me why underground music, your love for me.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

Oh man, that's that's just I grew up. I feel like I grew up that way. Like, you know what I mean? For lack of a better word, I was probably like like a prodigy or something. I started rapping when I was like 10 or 11. You know, my older cousin he rapped, and and I was like, damn, he was only two years older than me. So I straight up I heard him rap, and I was like, oh shit, we could just rap. You know what I mean? Like I thought you had to go to college to be a rapper, you know what I mean? That's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 6:30

Imagine, imagine that.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

Yeah, maybe I ain't know, you know what I mean? This was like 1989, 1991, like you know what I mean, 93 and all that. Yeah, there was no internet, so it wasn't a way for me to know how to be a rapper, like you know what I mean? Right. So I heard him rapping, and then I just um I started listening. Like, I just started listening for a long time before I started rapping. Like, and when I say a long time, it's probably like a year, two years, and I just started studying. Like, I I read the lyrics, you know. Back then the CD came with the lyrics, so I used to listen to the song and read the lyrics.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

So look, you remember the cassette tapes, dude, and putting paper tape over it and recording over stuff, and you have to rewind and write it down. Yeah, remember I you had to like I had to stop rewind. What'd he say? Stop, rewind, write it down so you can learn the song. Oh man, those are the days, those was the days. Now you can just look on your TV and then the words pop up for you.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

Yeah, exactly, exactly. But it's different now, though. It's not the same, though. The music ain't made for the same reason now, you know what I mean? So that's why the underground, you said why the underground, and because that's where the real shit at. That's where the real shit at. That's where the good music at. You gotta water it down to make it because that other music has to appeal to multiple audiences. It don't just have to appeal to a hip-hop audience, it gotta appeal to a pop audience. So, what makes a rapper good enough to like sell a million records is not necessarily his ability to write raps, it might be the way he sounds when he records it, or it might be how he looks, or who his girlfriend is, or what nigga he shot, or how many times he got shot, or how many years he did in prison. Like it don't have nothing to do with his ability to make the music in the underground. If a nigga think you're nice in the underground, it's cause you nice. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 8:12

His bars is based on technical difficulties, like you, you know, judging the Olympics. Yeah, exactly. You get a negative points taken off of this or points added for that. Whereas, like you said, with mainstream music, hell, are people even writing these songs? Where are the people that are creating this beautiful music? And why does it have to be somebody that looks a certain way, talks a certain way, acts a certain way? And I'm sure we both can agree that it's to push a narrative and how music has been used generationally to suppress and degrade and continue to keep people stuck because music is spiritual.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

It has been weaponized against the people that created it, and the youth, you know, you already know the people who listening to it, we they go to the music anyway. So, like the music ain't telling them nothing or leading them in no direction, but they still go to the music for direction. And you know what I'm saying? They dressing, they wearing with the nigga that you know what he's saying in his song, that's what they don't. They imitating the music.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

Right. I don't mean to take us off tangent real quick, but Andre 3000 just dropped, you know, his instrumental album. I listened to the project last night, and I haven't researched, but it is said to have been, you know, uh recorded at a healing frequency. And when I say my mind was blown, just the first track alone. Oh my god, you can visualize music from that. I just went down so many different wormholes in terms of that, and people are arguing, well, why is this considered a hip-hop album if he's doing it?

SPEAKER_02 9:54

It's not, and that's you know crazy. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

Labeling and boxing him in that moment. People don't want to grow. And I hate that. I hate that for music. For acting, you know, I can see it. You know, it's hard to Denzel crossed over and played like a villain in Train and Day, and he played it perfectly. Not everybody can do that. That's like watching Robin Williams play a serial killer. I think it was from that one movie where you used to see him being funny and a Mrs. Doubtfire, and he's a comedian, and but it didn't really cross over well. The energy didn't cross over well. Creativity like that, that's art. I find music to be just like painting. It is it is in the eye of the beholder because it can affect people different ways, you know?

SPEAKER_02 10:43

Yeah, exactly. For sure.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

And and that goes back to music and the community and the culture and how it's been weaponized when we have five-year-old girls that know Ski Wee and Pound Town and stuff like that. And we think it's funny. And we think it's funny.

SPEAKER_02 11:00

We think it's cute.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

And there's nothing is nothing cute about that when we want our children to be kids, let kids be kids. But how can kids be kids when we are doing everything to ensure that they're doing everything adults do dress, talk, act, behave, and they don't even have the mental capacity and rationale to to even understand what they're doing. All they're doing is what they see, all they're doing is what they see, and it's reinforced in our music and our media and our entertainment. So definitely um music and its effect on the culture. Great conversation to always build upon, I think, and how important underground music is to that, to the mainstream trends that's pushed on us constantly. So I appreciate the tunnel radio because I am hearing uh and have connected with a lot of dope minds that hasn't been taken over by the industry machine, you know, that thinks for themselves, right for themselves, they create some fire, create some fire for themselves, you know what I'm saying? So that's that's the beautiful thing. And I think that's the beautiful thing definitely about the tunnel radio. Tell me how often do you listen to music? That's when I want to know. Oh, I listen to music all day, like all day, like me, like music constantly plays in this house.

SPEAKER_02 12:24

Yeah, in the house, in the car, you know what I'm saying? You know, I'm the Uber nigga of the year out here in the streets, part of my language. I'm all about the search and say words like that. But um, yeah, I listen to the tunnel radio on iHeartRadio while I'm picking people up, you know what I'm saying? And I'm listening to the shit I think.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

That's a great video, and you got to do it.

SPEAKER_02 12:43

And it's also a great way for me to actually really have a connection with the songs and with the artists when I'm live. Like I'm not capping, I'm not fronting when I'm shouting them out, I'm quoting a song where they're from. It's hard to remember that many people's names, location, song, lyrics, you know what I'm saying? Unless you actually listening to it every damn day. So, you know, I'm putting like the same, the same energy I put into writing rhymes my whole life, I'm putting it into the tunnel radio, and that's why I be saying I don't rap no more, because I don't want to disrespect the craft. Like when I raped, I was dead nice, right? You know, and I really was serious about it. So, and I understand what it means to be serious about it, and I'm not no more. Like, I'm not trying to prove nothing to nobody. I feel like I proved everything I needed to prove, you know what I'm saying? And now I'm trying to put the, I'm putting the same energy that I put into writing rhymes into the tunnel radio for the culture, for the artists, and I'm letting them be heard the way they want to be heard and trying to build something with them for them. And I'm like, nigga, I don't even rap. Let's get them out to cry. Underground. You know what I mean? The tunnel tunnel is an underground passageway. And I didn't even know that when I named it that. Something just drew me to call it the tunnel radio because I was gonna call it Ready Rock TV, you know what I'm saying? And then I was like, nah, let's make this shit, you know what I'm saying, a radio show.

SPEAKER_00 14:02

Right.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

And I didn't even know about review shows back then, so that's why I keep saying that I'm not a review, we're not a review show. Because when we started this, I didn't even know about them. And the only reason I went to Facebook to do it is because I only knew a certain amount of underground rappers. I knew like 20. So I'm like, you know, now like 15. So I was like, I can't just play their song every damn time I do a show.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

That's like you and me both. I mean, my relationship with social media had to completely change when I jumped down this rabbit hole of podcasting. I didn't, I was just a casual Facebook user. I wasn't in professional mode, I didn't know anything about professional mode. I never knew the things that I were liking and clicking and sharing actually had effect on a kind of better deeper. And it's amazing now that I do know and my eyes are open to both sides of the spectrum. Like, I haven't operated on my personal page and I don't know how long because this changed my viewpoint. I hate social media, absolutely loathe social media. My 24-year-old daughter told me social media, if not already, is going to be the death of us. And I I truly believe that we make these connections every day.

SPEAKER_04 15:13

It is already girl.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

We say good morning, we say goodnight. We're sharing all this different stuff, but nobody is really connecting. Don't nobody know how to connect with people. It's like it should be like Kool-Aid. You add water and stir. You see how easy it is. We don't know each other like that. We just connected, but energy is everything, and you can't dress it up, can't fake the funk. When you know good people, you know good people. All it takes is cultivation. If you put the time and energy to cultivate relationships, that's why you can network and collaborate and connect and build with like minds and like artists, but there's a disconnect because people don't know how to do those things because they themselves don't know how to act, they don't know how to talk, they don't know how to network, they don't know how to be professional, and they just don't know how to be authentically themselves. I think that's a big issue.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

I think that's another thing. I want to like you, everything you said is 100, yo. And that's something, you know what I'm saying? I want to try to like help me. You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of that just stems from them not being 100% confident in what they're doing, right? You know what I mean? Like when you're not confident in what you created, then you don't really know how to present it to the world and you don't know how to socialize about it. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Like or just like our relationship to social media. When I first jumped in professional mode, I was looking to see how other people were doing things and trying to mimic what other people were doing. And I learned real quick, this is not me. This is not how I want to be doing things. I'ma do things my way. The way that I watch nobody goes, people either gonna get information, relocate, or they're gonna move around. You know what I'm saying? I I can't, you you can't you have to know for thyself, you have to trust, and that's discerning energy once again. Coming back to the type of people that you interacting with, connecting with, trying to build with. If they ain't on shit, you're not gonna be on shit with them either. Quality people, quality interactions, you know, quality connections, you know, know how to just be and and be confident within yourself, know that you are enough, your authentic self is enough, and represent that people appreciate authenticity, but people don't know how to recognize it anymore because everybody is looking for the motive.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

Everybody's trying to be something, man. I noticed that shit. Everybody, most people trying to be something, you know, or they want to be something. So most people don't know how to recognize when somebody just is what they is, like this is just what it is. Like, I'm not trying to be this.

SPEAKER_03 17:46

They can't believe in themselves enough to believe us.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

That's what I'm saying. Like, you know, you you trying to be something we in the tunnel.

SPEAKER_01 17:53

She's welcome to get in here on in this conversation with us if she wants to. Hi, let's go with but you know, I didn't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 18:02

I thought, you know, it's just like just the internet.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

No, I'm not no, I would, you know what? I would love to have you here too, but you've always been so shy.

SPEAKER_03 18:12

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

I'm very shy, girl boo. When you get on that radio show, the devil is a lie, wouldn't nobody know. Wouldn't nobody know? Because it's easy, man.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

We really, we really do what you love. I mean it comes easy to you. Like that shit is just all genuine, you know, other than me like projecting my voice, you know. Like, other than me doing shit like that.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Well, that's a DJ, that's your job, you know. It's to hype, is to hype people up. You were doing it live, and you know, there's people drinking or dancing and and whatever else, it's your job to keep them engaged and to keep them hype and the and to keep that elevated mood for the music. The music is spiritual. I definitely believe that. Um and and people know that too. That's why we got drilled, that's why you know we got all different kinds of meat. We know what people are doing. They ain't listening to Beethoven when they own some dirt, you know.

SPEAKER_04 19:17

You gotta know what you're doing.

SPEAKER_03 19:17

You listen to music for everything. I listen to all different types of music to work out, to clean, to work with, everything, all different types of music.

SPEAKER_01 19:27

I need it because it's powerful. We know how powerful music is. I mean, it's in our it's in our DNA, even from our ancestors to to the earliest of times when we didn't have nothing but a beat, something to drum on. You know, we know how that how bass is big in my life. Bass line, like it does something to my soul. Drums do something to my soul. It's like a it's like a call from the ancestors or something.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

Yeah, yeah, it is though. I'm very spiritual, but it it definitely is.

SPEAKER_02 19:56

It started with the pay attention to the right songs, you can get goosebumps, you know what I'm saying? You feel like you feel you're affected by that shit. Well, you might cry if you pay attention to it.

SPEAKER_04 20:06

Sometimes you don't need any words, though.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

Tell me what songs you got on repeat, and what song you know moves you to goosebum, moves you to tears, brings you a visceral emotional reaction. What kind of music does that to you?

SPEAKER_03 20:20

For me, I would say it's always heartfelt stories, obviously, like RB stories for me, because I'm just an emotional person, I'm very spiritual, and like I literally let the songs move me. And there's some songs that just it just hits the soul, and it's just the way they sound and how they're saying it, and I can relate to it. It's just that to me, it just does something to me. And for me, it's it's more RB than anything because it's more emotional for me.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Yeah, I got some um some roots reggae, you know what I mean? Like um, some Bob Marley's like war, fuck his Michael Jackson joints.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:59

That had me about the you know what I mean, a couple of Michael Jackson joints. I'm like, damn, you know what I'm saying? Because I can see him like because I said I make music too, so I listen to music different. Like I'm seeing, like, you know what I mean? I'm thinking he wrote that, he recorded that, and I can hear I could hear him recording it in the song, and the crazy, like I don't think he gets enough credit for that. Like, he get enough credit, he get credit for dancing and shit. But like you can hear him recording.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

So it would be amazing to like be a fly on the wall in that studio session just to see the process and the passion.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

If you listen to him hard enough, though, you can see him. Like, if you really be, you know what I mean, in that type of zone, you can hear him kicking it's always stopping the floor and yeah, he pays a picture to you all the time.

SPEAKER_03 21:44

Every song he has, you can listen to all his words that touch you. It's always a story.

SPEAKER_02 21:49

I listen to music from the standpoint of the nigga behind the microphone, you know. Yeah, because I be behind the microphone.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

Different points of views. Even the creator of the song, Michael Jackson, probably don't. Would not have looked at it the same way you looked at it, you know, depending on how personal it was to him. And I know one song that off the top of my head right now that gives me goosebumps, brings me to tears is Angela Wimbush's angel. That woman, you can feel her spirit move when she recorded that song. Oh my gosh, it's so beautifully made. And you can hear the passion, you can see it. It's like, oh my gosh, you can you can feel it in the air. I want to know who was she talking about? Who made you feel that way? And what a blessing, you know, it was to feel that way. Because even though I can talk about things from a point of view or perspective, I may not have to go through a situation in order to talk about it. Like they say, just because I post it don't mean I'm going through it. That's called empathy. But at the same time, your art to be able to dive deep into emotion and pull it out and then add, you know, a melody, I think is creative genius. And then to be able to do it multiple ways to me is is shows your creative geniuses, which is why I appreciate Andre Albert.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

Because it's like I like it too. I don't like it. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

I love it. I love it. It's meditative.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

What I mean by I don't like it, is like I ain't listening to the whole thing. But that first song when I was listening to, and then I read, you know what I mean, that long ass thing that come with it. I was like, okay, like you know, he's not saying, you know what I mean? This ain't no rap album. He's making a different genre of music. He's an artist, and I think that you know, right now, rap music ain't even really like being produced on the mainstream level, anyway. So they're making a different type of music anyway. So why y'all not limited in the type of music y'all make? Like, y'all got singers and y'all calling them rappers, you know what I'm saying? Why y'all not limited in the way y'all making music, but this nigga want to make something other than rap? And y'all like, yo, that shit rap, bro. Like, fuck that. You ain't gotta buy it, but why you shitting on it? Like, why you gotta publicly shit on them?

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Like, because those are the same minds that aren't listening to anything different. What people fail to understand, they seek to control, and if they can't control it, what do they do next? They destroy it, they do attempt to destroy it and shit on it and slander it, all because they can't understand it or control it for themselves, and that makes them feel away, you know. It it has to be such a boring existence to only want to listen to one genre of music. Music is universal, it's no different than being able to go to church or at a you know, be a missionary and go visit a foreign land where you don't know the language, but you can go into that church and you can hear worship music, and everybody can worship and fellowship on the same level through music because the spirit moves through music. So, you know, you you don't have no spirit to me. You ain't got no real spirit for music. You can't call yourself a music head if you don't love music. Right, right. Tell me what crazy song people would judge you for liking. You wouldn't tell nobody or don't share or would laugh or think you're crazy. What's that song?

SPEAKER_02 25:15

Yeah, I don't know. Let me see. Tell you something, you're a quick niggas would be like, Oh shit, you listen to that shit. You listen to that. I like the red hot chili puppies, they got a song called Um California Cation or Water Under the Bridge or something like that. I fuck with um Guns and Roses, welcome to the jungle.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

That's what I say when I need to go get wax. That's what I tell my lady when she gonna wax me. Welcome to the jungle.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

Ah, there's a country song. Oh, I'm fucking I'm waiting on what I'm sitting on the cell on the inside, waiting on my wife on the outside. Right, this shit.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

Black artists are making big moves in country music here, especially in Nashville. They have a collective of artists down here. I need to research and do more about. I know our song here, my kids, like a song that we would have to listen to on the way to school that just hype them up, and they each had their instrument that they airplayed on the way to school, or even still, we could be at the light somewhere, and we just rocking out is System of a Down, Toxicity. That is a family favorite song of all of my girls. My girls love that song I introduced into it, and that's super dope. It's super punkish, grunge. What is this? I'm not sure, but um, definitely a different genre of music that people are not used to seeing black women rocking out and listening to. You look over and you see a black woman here he ate rocking, y'all gonna look at me like I'm crazy. Why? Music is music. I can't listen to music like this. Why?

SPEAKER_02 26:57

Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact. That's why people don't like the Andre 3000 album because it wasn't, you know.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

They don't understand that it wasn't black enough. Not even. I just think they don't have the capacity to for critical thinking because anybody who can sit back and relax and close their eyes.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

Hey, go to sleep to it. You ain't gotta dance to it.

SPEAKER_03 27:18

Yeah, but nowadays that's all you hear. That's all you hear on the radio is music that just makes you want to dance. You don't even hear the words anymore. All you hear is just the the beat playing and people dancing to it. They selling their own soul with what they sing, and you just you can't, yeah, you can't even hear them to it, the the and people can't appreciate the music anymore.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

You know, they listen to it for a different reason. Like I said, like it's mostly dance music that they they used to listen to, or you know, people who fans are Andre 3000 because he got bars, they wanted to hear him drop some bars too. They just want to hear some bullshit, but at the same time, you know, he ain't a rapper. He said he's 48, he's almost 50, and he like, what the hell I'm a rapper about, you know what I'm saying? I ain't got nothing to do with it.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

I think you can rap forever. I don't think that's it. I just think there's transformation, there's transplantation, that there's elevation, that there's growth existing.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

His music is not rap. They think that rap artists gotta stay rap all. Yeah, they can make music, some rock and roll shit.

SPEAKER_01 28:21

And does that make you an artist? Does that really make you an artist? That would be my thing because an artist can take different mediums and create something great, you know, with it.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

And that's smart, and then those people might start listening to his raps, right? Oh shit, he could rap too.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

It's like my you know, I you know, I promote my nephew all the time. And I encourage him because he created a whole anime-based album, which is I think the genre now is called Jersey Club music, is the specific genre of this music, but it has the anime beats, and he's rapping to that kind of style of beat, and to create rock music or RB music, or you know, to mimic and to pick up any style and and run with it and create it yourself. I I find that to be genius that you don't limit yourself. That when you are an artist and you can create music, actually, a creator of music, then you you know, you are a rapper, but are you an artist? You can do all kinds of different things, just get creative, think outside the box, stop giving me the same thing over and over, stop talking about the same thing over and over. I'm gonna need you to go live some life, have some experiences, you know what I'm saying? Outside of the hood.

SPEAKER_02 29:43

Some niggas think to me if I say this or shit. But once again, they got to do it is different. Like a lot of most of them is imitating something that existed before them, and they don't understand the concept of being the first one to be you. Yeah, you know what I mean? Be the first to get time, like that's a Facebook post right there.

SPEAKER_01 30:01

The first one to be see what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

I'm gonna put that on Facebook, right?

SPEAKER_01 30:04

Because there's there's only there's only one you, there's no duplicate, there's no doppelganger, there's no you are the original cookie. It don't get no better.

SPEAKER_02 30:15

You know what I'm saying? You might not be better than that nigga at being him, but you could be you better than he could be you, right? So be real good at being.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

So, what does it really come down to? It comes down to self-esteem and confidence and how you feel about yourself. Because when you're safe and secure and you know who you are, it wouldn't be nothing nobody could tell me about what I do, when I do it, how I do it, you know? Because if you don't like it, hey, you don't have to listen to it. But that comes back to why do you do this? Is it because you want to be known, you want to be famous? You why do you do this? Remember, why are you passionate about this? When you were writing, if you was in a jail cell or in prison and you sitting here writing to release, to purge the pain of trauma that you're living with every day, or you know, I can only imagine being locked behind bars, no support system, nobody sending you that sweet and salty pack, nobody putting money on your books, you know what I'm saying? Nobody visiting, nobody writing, you know, you're stuck. They you're forgotten about because life is moving on without you on the outside world. There is power in pen and paper. Why did you do this shit in the first place? And then to come out and then take your craft and your art and turn it into something to share with everybody, but then just leave yourself there stuck. Where's your growth?

SPEAKER_02 31:30

That's the difference between the underground and the above-ground shit is that the above ground shit, they don't make good music and good art, they make products, they make good products. Amen. So they want to make the song that's gonna sell the most.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

They want to make the song that's gonna sell deodorant, the song that goes good with selling soda pop, the song that goes good with it with I'm loving it. That McDonald's chicken nugget.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

The criteria, no, but the criteria that makes Drake good in the above ground scene wouldn't it's a different criteria in the underground scene because it's not about making the product, it's about making the good music. We're gonna buy it because it's a good so it's a good album. I want to hear that, right? I want to hear the other songs. People hate on Drake, but I love Drake.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

I love Drake, I love Drake. I don't hate his own, you know.

SPEAKER_02 32:18

I love something hurt a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

Not all of his music, I don't appreciate, but when I sit and listen to some, especially more of his RB shit, like redemption or Wu-Tank Forever, you know, just there's just some joints where he just he has it. I've always said that.

SPEAKER_02 32:36

I always said that I like I like him singing, I don't like him rapping.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Nah, yeah, yeah. Now you get bodied by a singing nigga, you know what I'm saying? By an RB nigga, you know, but it's good that you know he's able to, you know, cross over like that, or people, you know, make fun of him because he was acting and was in Degrassi and just goes to show you how art is an art form. He picked up the art, he's an artist, I like to think, because you see how he attaches himself to everybody. He's going on tour with who of all people, J. Cole. Come on now. Sexy Red, he did a song with sexy red. He he's marketing, you know what I'm saying? And it's money, you know. Everybody trying to be on a Jay-Z shit, you know.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

That's what I'm saying. It's more about that, it's about how many albums you sold. But you know, Soldier Boy sold a lot, he made a lot of money making music too, but nobody would argue that. You know what I mean? He wouldn't have an argument in the underground as whether or not, you know what I mean? Yeah, right. It'd be a different conversation. He won't be in certain conversations back and so definitely, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

How do you feel about mainstream music and its effect on the culture?

SPEAKER_02 33:42

I don't I think that it had a horrible effect on the culture. A horrible effect because of what they're pushing, but not just that, in the underground, you know, it is it's important for the underground to exist. Like we used to have mixtapes and all that, and we used to care more about what the mainstream rapper sounded like on a mixtape than we we cared about how he sounded on his song that had a million. You know what I mean? That went platinum, his song that we're playing. We don't care about that song, we care about it was more authentic. It was more authentic. He spit 170 bars and he still could rap. Like that's the culture to me.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

You know how many times I done heard a song, and I'd be like, who wasted that beat? Who was it that production?

SPEAKER_02 34:23

Like, this was such a waste.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

Somebody else should have been rapping on this song or rapping in a different way.

SPEAKER_03 34:32

I think the main theme is honestly whack because they all they doing is pushing songs, it's just pushing. The same shit, like you said, the the repetitive shit, the shit that you hear all of the over and over. I pick bitches, I shoot niggas, and I do this. I'm so tired of songs like that. It just makes me ill. Like, and and and honestly, all the younger generation, that's all they hear now. So they think that shit is cool, you know what I'm saying? So now they're adapting to that lifestyle, thinking that they're actually living that lifestyle and they're not. And so that's what's going on. What's wrong with our youth now is that they're thinking that this music is really real, you know, and it's not, it has nothing to do with.

SPEAKER_01 35:15

I'm gonna take it a step further, even outside of the detrimental effects that it's having on our youth, on our community, how it paints a picture of us to the outside world. One thing you will never see canceled, you know, because cancel culture is big, they talk about it all the time. One thing you'll never see canceled is the degradation of melanated women, women specifically, no different than what's going on in Gaza right now. When you keep hearing them talking about destroy, chop off the head of the snake, how do you do that? 70% of that population is women and children. If you destroy the women, they can't have babies. If you kill the children, they can't grow up to resist. So that's what they mean. And people want to argue look, and who knows, we'll get in trouble talking about genocide on here. But this is happening in real time. This is happening. We're watching this with apathy in real time. All these children dying, you know, that's what they're doing, that's how they're cutting the head off, is through killing of the women and the children. And this is how the world, how influential music is in terms of image. Our image as black women and men is firmly cemented in the eyes of the world, and it's reinforced through media, through music. You don't you don't see nothing positive except just on Facebook, passing and posting stuff around. That's the most you're gonna see with positivity. It's gonna either be in sports or nothing in real life. We don't have any role models, anything that's you know helping push a different narrative, not only you know, for our young people, but for the world around us. Because when they see us, all they think about is what they hear. That you know, men they're angry, they're violent, they're animals. You know what I'm saying? We're sex craze, drug craze, and murder, murder, kill, kill. That's the only thing you're gonna see associated. But you get on social media, these black women is doing everything.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

What gets televised the most? The bad girls' club, these bitches just fighting all the time. Like for what? Every day. I I mean, I don't see it. I don't sit there and watch this because that shit is mad, ignorant, it's stupid, it's corny. But when I do browse through my Facebook and I see a post, the people who posting it, they're glorifying it. Oh, look at this chick fighting this chick. It's like it's so sad.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

It was all by design, though. It was all by design. Because you know, they did the Colonel Commission report on urban disorder, you know what I'm saying? When we was rioting and we was fighting back against the police back when Rodney King got beat up, and what was fueling us was a strong sense of racial pride, and we was getting that shit from positive hip hop music. So what they did was they flooded the airways with negativity, with black exploitation music and black exploitation films. And that right there, they put an image of us that we seen every day, we seen it every day, and they put it in front of us and they laughed about it, and so we laughed about it, and then that became what being black is in America. Thank you. Like, if I if you ask if you ask a black kid to name you 10 things that it means to be black, be like, yo, give me 10 things that make you black. Like, what makes you black? You're not gonna hear him say 10 positive things, you're gonna hear him say things that's killing him. He's gonna say, I love fried chicken, he's gonna say I'm gonna say a whole bunch of negative things. We only think negative things make us black because we have adapted to being, I hate to say this word right here, but we have adapted to being niggas. We think we niggas. If a white person, if a white celebrity says nigga, black people get offended. Why? Because black people think they're niggas, right? And we we get mad at white people for saying the word, we gotta get mad at ourselves for thinking that we niggas.

SPEAKER_01 39:02

Right. You know what else? But what does that bring you to culture? We do not have culture, our culture is manufactured, our culture is what they tell us. Look how our culture has transformed over the years, over the generation, and and how it's deteriorating. When we think of culture in other places, you can go to Mexico, they got culture, Spain, they got culture, India, they got culture. You can go anywhere in the world and they have culture. We are a lost people here in America. I keep telling people that. Let a black town at.

SPEAKER_03 39:37

That's all you can. They're united, they're united. Everybody's united but us.

SPEAKER_02 39:43

We don't have it, babe.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

America don't have culture. What do America celebrate? Wars. We got World War One, World War II, we got worlds, we got war monuments, we celebrate generals. We, you know what I'm saying? We don't we don't have any culture because our identity was stripped from us when we came here. Our identity is what we chose to make it, and when we tried to make our identity mean something more, it was an active campaign to destroy it. And so now, you know, what is culture? What is black culture? How do you define that to your children, you know, here in America? Because there's nowhere we can go in the world that we're not hated. We can't even go back to Africa for what? They think our blood is tainted, they don't like us over there. If you ever looked at conversations between Africans and black Americans, it's so ignorant. You know, we talk about them as if they, you know, feed the children and that they live in huts, and you know, and that they've been colonized and you know, jungle people and and they look at us and it's horrible. Where can we go?

SPEAKER_02 40:46

We've been colonized though, mentally and physically, though, everywhere. So even in Africa, the melanated people have been colonized mentally and physically. And so, you know, we've been programmed to hate each other. But if you go to certain places, like in God, because we hate each other here. So it don't even like, what would you expect the Africans to think about us? We kill each other here. Right. We hate each other here. So why would he trust us over there? Like, why would they why would when we go over there, would they love us over here when we rap about killing each other? When that's where the number one rapper that makes the most money in America raps about killing black people. So in Africa, yo, my co-worker told me back in the day that they got a store called Nigga. I swear to God, they got a song, they got a store called Nigga and they sell clothes that rappers with. And the name of the store is nigga. So, what I'm saying to you is that that's they're not grown for that. They're not like this is what I'm saying is that which but it's called nigga and they sell what we hear because that's who the niggas are globally, and that's not a good thing. So the pot the the industry that we're talking about when we talk about what why we doing this shit for the undergrounders, because that's what matters. The underground needs to be above ground because it used to be. Rap is not a conscious rapper, it's not a conscious rapper. If you go back to what rap is, then rap was conscious. They was talking about what they seen in their reality, and it just so happened that some people that wasn't from where they was from got a hold of it and they let the world hear it, and then they turned it into a product that was gonna make money. And so now it's not about the culture up there, it's not about the culture, it's about the money that the product can make. What the people need to hear, right? What only matters is what the people, what we want them to hear, what we want them to do.

SPEAKER_03 42:24

That's why I kind of doing shit now.

SPEAKER_02 42:26

The culture don't exist up there, it's different. It's it's all about pushing an agenda, whatever agenda they want to be pushed, and that's the significance of the underground.

SPEAKER_03 42:34

Whatever it is, it's it's work. It worked, it worked working and it and it worked.

SPEAKER_01 42:38

Tell me what does the future look like for the tunnel radio underground music and where you see it here, you know, in the future.

SPEAKER_02 42:47

So we, you know, 2024 is gonna be amazing for us, you know. We're gonna have, you know, the app available, you know what I mean, for the no for to be able to be watched on you know your smart TVs and all that. Yeah, so you can watch it like that. And what else, man? We got the we got the working on that syndication, we got the information. Really? Yeah, we gotta put the money behind it.

SPEAKER_01 43:08

That is all I've ever dreamed of for you all. That's what I see. I need you guys to be heard loud and clear all over the nation. Definitely, you guys are so relevant, so relevant to music, to our manufactured culture. Because even though, even though it's manufactured, we can build, we get to build on top of those things, though. We get to have conversations about what we hear, what we're listening to. And you guys, your minds aren't stuck in the mud, you know. Like, I haven't I can tell you this, I promise, I haven't listened to another review show. I haven't listened or participated, and because it's it don't compare. And I don't mean that to, you know, to shit on anybody else and what they're doing. But what they're doing is not what you're doing, and not for the same reason. I don't see no love for music. I don't see no love for the culture. I don't see no love for the artist. I don't see no love for building, for networking, for collaborating, for bringing people together to say, hey, I like how you sound. Let's work. Let's put in some work together. Let's build together. You know, let's let's let's share. Share in this amazing love for music and get it pushed and get it out here. Because, you know, when when you grow, we grow. And that's just that. Vice versa. And vice versa.

SPEAKER_03 44:39

And I definitely appreciate that, um, honestly, because that's what we push. Like, that's why that's why we're we're different from from other review shows and and or or other people in general, because we we really want to do this for the artists. Like, you're not a review show. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. From any other show, period. Like, we really do it for love, we do it for the culture, and we hope that we can continue to do it for the culture.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

You know, like, you know, black coats won that barbarians in the tunnel tournament, and we're gonna, you know, nobody paid to sign up, and we invest the money in the in the reward. Well, tell us tell us about that.

SPEAKER_01 45:17

Barbarians in the tunnel, what it was, what it is, and yeah, yeah. So tell me all about that.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

So barbarians in the tunnel is a track verse track battle, you know, concentrated on the bars, you know what I mean, between the rappers. And wasn't expecting to get asked that question, you said.

SPEAKER_01 45:32

But it's good practice, right? It's good practice because you're gonna need it when you become syndicated, and other people are giving you a better interview than what I am. No, this is great.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

Absolutely. This is only the second time we ever been interviewed anyway. We don't fuck with nobody.

SPEAKER_03 45:46

But season one of Barbarians in the Tunnel is where we had uh 16 artists competing amongst each other in a track versus track battle. It was it was super dope, you know what I'm saying? The moment the most bars was gonna come out on yeah, we we try to just do it about the bars, you know, just to that tournament, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 46:05

Like we we do definitely gonna work on one that's you know soon.

SPEAKER_01 46:09

Okay, and how's the tournament set up? It's set up like a bracket, right?

SPEAKER_03 46:13

Yeah, yeah, it is set up like a bracket. Well, right now for season two. So, season one, we have Black Colts who won. So, you know, kudos to him. He definitely worked his ass off. He came out and and started swinging and never stopped. Yeah, for sure. And season two, right now, we have a total as of right now of 22 participating, or 23 participating artists, and I'm so looking forward to that. But it is like a tournament, so whoever participated in season one, they won't be battling the first round because you know they deserve to yeah, they they deserve to sit down and watch now their new competitors, which honestly is still gonna be some new fire artists. I can't wait. I'm excited about that.

SPEAKER_01 47:03

I cannot be in battle more. That's amazing. That is so amazing. Tell me, is there anything that you guys would like my audience to know about the tunnel radio? What it is, what it isn't, which you've highlighted on hey, the review show is not from the host, not from the DJ, it's from the audience. They might give some personal fires because hell, that's natural. Like shit, that shit is popping and it deserves some fire, period. But other than that, you know, is up to those that are tuning in at the moment to listen to and to review because that's their audience. You aren't their audience, you are just there as a medium helping them, you know, deliver us, you know, some fire tracks.

SPEAKER_03 47:49

And that's yeah, we are a platform for all artists to come out and let other people hear your cry. Or we to say, hey, that song is not good, because in all reality, there's so many different types of audience for different types of songs. We're not gonna have the same taste for the song, so we try to give everybody an opportunity to get heard, but then we also leave it to the audience to decide whether or not they like it. Because in reality, they would have been the ones to purchase your CD, to purchase your mixtape.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

And that happens a lot, it happens a lot in the tunnel where people like you know, even if it's artists listening to it and be like, oh shit, that shit is out yet, and they streaming it now every day, or they add it to their playlist, so and that's what it was built for. But um, that's why we also we throw the zoom link up there because we read the comments every night, and we like damn, these people got some good insight on music too. Like, okay, I like that comment right there. Let's put the zoom link in the comments and let them join the comments. Yeah, except for this.

SPEAKER_03 48:46

Oh my god, I cannot read comments and events, I'd be on full-blown professional mode.

SPEAKER_04 48:53

As you should as you should be, as you should be.

SPEAKER_01 48:58

People don't understand the logistics that goes into putting on uh I can only imagine a show, just like a podcast. The logistics of everything I have to do to get ready to edit something totally different, but you know, for you all married with children and and just working in life and and and putting all this, you know what I'm saying, together for artists. I hope people and the artists do appreciate you all. The fact that you are giving them a platform to have their music, you know, be heard and listened to, you know, what I would like to eventually see is a culture because you create your culture, right? Because we talk about culture, and culture is, you know, is the is the key word for the show today is that the tunnel radio creates a culture where people know that when you come up in this space, act accordingly. You know what I'm saying? That when they see other people of like minds collecting that had just the love for music and for the art and for the creative aspect of it, and they start seeing other people commenting positively or even if it's negative criticism, because hey, trolls, what's a show without trolls? Of course, right? We we all have our favorite trolls, you know. Definitely got a couple of trolls on the top right, definitely on purpose, and they trolls on purpose, and that's what's up. They hype up the comments, they just like you. Your job is to hype up the audience. I love them too. I love the trolls, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:28

I love them too, bro.

SPEAKER_03 50:29

Yeah, I just don't like disrespect towards the show itself.

SPEAKER_01 50:33

There's a line, a fine, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:35

Absolutely. You you could be a troll, but never disrespect what we're doing because what we're doing is for you, you know, it's for the people and your benefit, absolutely. Like, you know, that's the one thing I don't want. I don't want somebody to be unappreciative of what we're doing, not knowing what we're actually doing for them. You know, like don't take us for granted. What we're doing is really we're doing this for you. Where else can people hear your music? Nobody's gonna know unless you have, you know, you go to these platforms and you give them your music and let people hear you.

SPEAKER_02 51:09

You know, you know, you come in here, nigga, we're playing your shit. We ain't got no, we're playing it back to back for free. We just playing niggas shit up the list. We don't be trying to like stretch it out too long so we can get paid to skip that shit. Like, we know the rules that we talk to all of these niggas behind the scenes. I ain't trying to blow up the spot. I know people might listen to this shit my fault.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

Of course, and I think that comes back down to connection.

SPEAKER_02 51:29

People don't really spot and be like these niggas be prolonging the show. Well, I don't know what other people do because I don't see other people.

SPEAKER_03 51:37

But as far as our show, I'm just saying like I don't I don't want somebody to be like disrespectful towards the show, meanwhile, all we're doing is promoting you. We're supporting you, promoting you, bigging you up.

SPEAKER_01 51:50

That's something you know you don't want, but we already know has happened and will happen again simply because you know, once again, we we dealing with the people problem, you know, right when when people aren't organically themselves, or you know, or they got issues or they got problems, and they think that okay, we see these two hosts here, they play our music, we interact occasionally or whatever. They think that they know you like that, and that you are supposed to have allegiances, you are supposed to, you know, act a certain way to be neutral. You know what I'm saying? Understand that the hosts are neutral. You do not know me, no matter how much I spill and purge on this microphone that may make you seem make it seem closer to me. Yeah, you know, that's the goal. I'm once you hear me and understand me and find me relevant and relatable, but that still don't mean that you know me. So you know, for you to to to treat me in a way as if you do or anything that I do is negative towards you because I don't know you either. And what you're showing me, I don't like. I wouldn't want to be associated with you or have you associated with my show or anything that I'm doing because you're not good people, and that's just we need good people, good people around us, and I like it.

SPEAKER_03 53:09

We we definitely get that a lot too here in the in the tunnel where it's so hard because I don't think I don't think a lot of people realize that we get thousands of songs for real. We get so many songs, so many different artists. We may socialize with artists more than other artists, and uh, you know, we just try to keep it as neutral as possible because we don't want anybody to think, oh look, we like this person more than you know what I'm saying? It's it's a sad thing to think about, but we try to just keep it real and the same way with people. Yes, we don't think that way, but we're just saying we know that people do, just because it's it's come across us, yeah. Yeah, we didn't know until we had a lot of people say this and that, and I'm like, whoa, hold on, what's what's going on?

SPEAKER_04 54:00

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 54:01

We we like we like people because we like people, we don't just choose pick and choose just for the fun of it, you know. Right?

SPEAKER_01 54:07

I love it, and I love you all, and I love the tunnel radio, and appreciate that, you know. You know, when I blow up, I I want to be an investor and invest because I believe in you all and I believe in your mission. I like yeah, I appreciate y'all. I appreciate y'all talking to me uh and just connecting with me and building with me and just being open. I strive all the time about making quality connections, making having positive interactions with people because even if we were never to talk again, I want people to leave their experience talking with me and be able to feel like they had a good experience, that it had a good quality interaction, that it was something that poured into them, good energy, good vibes, and that's how every interaction you should have should be left with.

SPEAKER_03 54:54

And definitely before we go, just know that we definitely had a great conversation, a great build. And honestly, I really I I really love you personally. I want you to know that. Like, I love you. I do I love your heart, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm I'm a big heart person, so I don't know. Something with you, I'll be like, yo, I really love her. Like, she's so genuine and authentic, and and it's hard to come by, you know, like it's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

I recognize that, you know, it's a crazy world out there, and it's a lonely, it's a lonely existence when people are far and few, you know, in between that are that are like minds. And to me, I I chop it down to people not being able to recognize genuine intentions anymore. People aren't used to to that's what it is too, right? Good people to the point where everything is motive-based that it's hard for them to believe somebody like me exists that just loves people, love to connect, that you know, want to push the needle for humanity in a different direction than where it's going. And um, we're so used to the bad that when good comes around, it's just like you know, it's too hard to believe.

SPEAKER_03 56:06

You'd be like, Wait, hold up. Is she scamming?

SPEAKER_01 56:08

Right, what is what is the motive?

SPEAKER_03 56:12

Are they a robot? This is a simulation.

SPEAKER_01 56:16

I'm a sim.

SPEAKER_03 56:17

Look, I tell people all the time this world is though, that we can't even phantom that that there's people out there that are actually genuine, you know, because there's so much up in these streets, right?

SPEAKER_01 56:31

Right, man.

SPEAKER_03 56:32

But that's why we're listening to the podcast, damn it. Amen.

SPEAKER_01 56:36

Listen to the podcast, damn it. Thank you. I appreciate you all. Definitely shout out. Tell me, tell me where we can listen to the tunnel radio, when, where, definitely, how yo man, you can catch us on iHeart Radio for playback of it.

SPEAKER_02 56:52

You can catch us on Spotify and Pandora as well, the tunnel radio da, tunnel like tunnel, radio light radio. And then um, you know, usually as long as everything is good, six nights a week, we live on Facebook at 9.14 p.m. That's 9.14 p.m. Live on the tunnel radio Facebook page.

SPEAKER_01 57:11

You know what I mean? Eastern time, right?

SPEAKER_02 57:13

Eastern time, my folk. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 57:15

It's all good. All good. The clarification is good. We want people to know exactly where to go after they listen to this episode and be able to find you all so they can find those hot tracks you be sharing and dropping. And I'm telling y'all, that's where it's at. We got some dope artists in the tunnel radio that should be mainstream that I would listen to, support, and have. I don't tell people what I do, I don't, you know, have a need to share how I support, you know, other people and artists. But I know if people love music like I do, that they will go buy and they'll go support and they'll do whatever that they can just to because even at the end of the day, it may seem small, just my contribution. But to me, I am investing in somebody's confidence and I'm investing in energy, I'm investing in them and helping them, you know, keep them wanting to do more to be like, hey, you know, I'm just one. I could be two, that could be somebody else, you know. And before you know it, it's a domino effect. And and I just that's just it. I just want to be alike and I want to support people. And I'm so lucky to have found the tunnel radio because this is totally off track from what I do. Just finding you all led me to down a creative track I didn't know, doing some spoken word and sharing my poetry.

SPEAKER_00 58:33

That's something I would have never done if I had never come to the tunnel radio.

SPEAKER_01 58:39

So that that definitely the tunnel radio is definitely birthed that in me, and and I couldn't even be more thankful for you all for that. So that's something that you did. Oh, that you're out here making a difference, even if you can't see it.

SPEAKER_04 58:54

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 58:55

I'm gonna go cry now, y'all. I'll see y'all later. I'll be back tomorrow night 9 14 p.m. Eastern time. I'll be back tomorrow. Straight up, just like that, just like that. Uh, I love you guys so much. Thank you. Likewise.

SPEAKER_02 59:15

Shout out to the black mama and the filty baby.

SPEAKER_04 59:18

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 59:21

Man, that was a beautiful build-in session with some beautiful people. I am truly thankful for virtual connections with dope souls. Real recognize real, and it don't get no realer than what you just heard. Shout out to the Tonga Radio for being two of the dopest souls online that I have gotten to not only build with, but exchange beautiful energy with. Be sure that by the end of this episode you go live and follow all of their socials. And tune in at 9 14 p.m. Monday through Saturday to listen to the highest underground music artists and producers from all over the world. And especially if you're in the music industry yourself, I implore you to go check them out. Amba can guarantee that you won't be disappointed. The links to the tunnel radio are provided in the section of the podcast. Thank you again so much for your time, your energy, your ears, for your support of authentic and higher vibrational content. It would be so beautiful for you to drop a review on whatever platform you are tuning in from. It is one of the best ways to support the podcast. And it's free. But if any and you feel moved to Andrew, you are more than welcome to donate to the show and plenty of Z. The donation link is providable along with all the others. Once again, thank you so much for being here with me. Until next time, be good. Stay healthy.